Public Safety committee  Yes, we are going into schools, certainly within the greater Toronto area and across the province. The INSETs unit is for all of Ontario—it's in transition, I think—excluding the national capital region. But absolutely, we are. We've been to Hamilton. We've been to Windsor and Niagara.

Public Safety committee  In my experience, what we're seeing, or have seen to some degree, is some elders in the communities who come and look for youth to go and support the cause in the name of nationality—in some instances. Certainly, we have seen some youth who have gone, and the information coming back is that they didn't know what they were getting themselves into.

Public Safety committee  I think the second part of that is also the Attorney General's consent. Certainly having dealt with the hate propaganda sections of the Criminal Code, which require Attorney General consent, they are the gatekeepers of what that threshold is. Without their consent we could not go forward.

Public Safety committee  I think what I would say is that the threshold to lay a charge has been met and it has yet to be tried. I think that will be a good indicator of whether we were stretching...and certainly if it meets the threshold according to the courts, who will rule on that. Certainly this legislation and the reimplementation of these sections would make it clearer what a criminal threshold is and that it certainly would allow for enforcement.

Public Safety committee  No, and it's the type of investigation and what was required for the evidence to be gathered to meet that threshold, and that's the part we can't speak of.

Public Safety committee  They would need to have committed an offence in order to get a warrant.

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Respectfully, if I could, there is one person—

Public Safety committee  There is actually one individual from Toronto—he was leaving and was apprehended at the Toronto airport—who is before the courts as we speak. Assistant Commissioner Malizia has arrived just recently in this program and might not be familiar with the case. It was initiated by the Toronto Police and turned over to the RCMP, and the individual is before the courts.

Public Safety committee  He's before the courts. It has not gone through successfully in a prosecution, but certainly he is charged with attempting....

Public Safety committee  I would use the term “increasing”. An increasing number are coming to our attention.

Public Safety committee  My short answer again is yes, we are seeing that, and it's limited in what I can provide. I'll look to the assistant commissioner to add more detail.

Public Safety committee  Okay. Certainly, the whole issue of this law being specific to them—and we're quite clear that it is not. A large number of members of that community are very supportive of law enforcement, of this country, of Canada, of our initiatives, and they ultimately want to work and build better relationships with us so that the community as a whole better understands that we are not targeting them.

Public Safety committee  Yes, I do. In fact, it is improving. I'd say that every four or five months you see another inroad that is very significant for us.

Public Safety committee  My short answer is yes, I am aware of that, but I am limited in what I can say. There are ongoing investigations.