Status of Women committee  Not only do we encourage it, but it is what we are trying to do with our dialogue and our prevention strategy. We try to establish a climate where really this dialogue is encouraged and is permitted, and where there is no fear. We try to make sure that our employees are well equipped to have that dialogue, and they are able to put it into words, because quite often it's difficult.

Status of Women committee  Yes.

Status of Women committee  I'll ask my technical expert to explain it.

Status of Women committee  Usually this is why we will try, first of all, to resolve it at the informal level and to have that discussion with the two proponents. Then if they want to continue, we'll continue. We will try to have a dialogue as we go. As we said, we'll also try to intervene in the workplace to make sure that at the group level there's sensitization done, because usually it's not just one person versus another person, but there's a group that will be affected.

Status of Women committee  Union representatives are always...

Status of Women committee  It is not done automatically. I can let Charles answer your question, but, generally speaking, we will try to resolve the conflict. If there is an allegation, we will try to dig a little further into the issue. However, you can understand that the person against whom those allegations are made also has rights, and we cannot overlook them.

Status of Women committee  No, but it is because...

Status of Women committee  ...it is not always certain.

Status of Women committee  Yes, but it is not always certain that the complaints are founded. So we have to look at both sides.

Status of Women committee  That's right.

Status of Women committee  Yes. You will understand that it is difficult for us to say that we have numbers on something that is not official; we do not.

Status of Women committee  However, what is certain, as I told you, is that we are using a very multidisciplinary approach in our department. We have a number of ways to take the pulse of the organization. That is why we have provided our managers with a type of guide—I talked about it in my remarks, as you might recall—to help them assess the situation.

Status of Women committee  For our department, based on what we have and what we know, we feel that it is effective. However, we are very open to any suggestions for improvement.

Status of Women committee  At the moment, the Treasury Board has already proposed a new policy and we have made a commitment to follow it. As I said, our procedures will be fully aligned with this policy by January 2013. We want to strengthen the message that people can come to see us as soon as there is a small problem, because we are part of the solution.

Status of Women committee  ...invited if the person wishes to invite them. It is up to the individual to decide whether they want to be represented by their union or not.