Veterans Affairs committee  Overall, we are watching that, and it does vary by program. I think one that's very indicative is the rehab program, where now we have 5,700 veterans who are participating. For that, with the earnings loss that goes along with it, we've seen an increase of about 20%. Now, there are many factors that bring people into these programs.

Veterans Affairs committee  I think the deputy minister has outlined the complexity of our forecasts and how it's not necessarily a straightforward matter to say that if a program is increasing it's related to one particular cause. But just quickly, our disability pensions, which is our largest program in the department, has been in place for many years.

Veterans Affairs committee  No, that's correct. We do of course forecast our demand based on the number of veterans we expect to use these programs. What's very important is that, because of the demand-driven nature of our programs, we adjust our forecasts and adjust our requested funds to reflect increased demand.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  It's in the area of $350 million.

Veterans Affairs committee  That's correct.

Veterans Affairs committee  Could I just add one more comment on that one too? The number electing to defer is fairly small; we will get the exact number. But what we do see is that they're taking advantage of the opportunity to get financial counselling, so for some of that lag, while they may eventually opt to get the lump sum, they're taking their time, they're getting advice, and they're making an informed decision.