Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  There is a lot of talk among Sunni militant groups about Christian proselytizing as a reason why they have to sort of fight back. That, to me, is not the usual argument that's made about Ahmadiyya. The usual argument about Ahmadiyya is that they're infidels and they've sullied th

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes. I mean, with Shia, it's the same. These radical groups consider them to be heretic Muslims, which I guess for them is worse than folks who aren't even Muslims in the first place.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  There's no doubt there are some problems with judicial independence in Indonesia across the board on all issues. That's just simply a fact. I think the bigger problem, from a legal, judicial, rule of law point of view, in relation to this problem in particular, is that police an

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  It's a very complicated political science question, and to be perfectly frank, I'm not qualified to answer on the history going all the way back to 1945, when independence started. The short answer is that what you have is a country in which really extremist elements, in the poli

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Demographically there is one group that's targeted more than the others, just because they're bigger and there are more targets, so to speak, and that is Christians, who make up 9% to 10% of the population. If you look at the 250-odd attacks this year, which by the end of the yea

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Thank you, and thank you for allowing me to testify before the committee. The subject of your hearing today, religious intolerance in Indonesia, is a very timely one. Human Rights Watch has been working on human rights issues in Indonesia for decades, from abuses during the auth