Environment committee  Yes. Randal, do you want to talk about the private side? I'll talk about the feds.

Environment committee  To steal two seconds from Randal—

Environment committee  —the private sector is way ahead of government. There are governments at the sub-federal level that are leaders—some provinces and municipalities—and also some university campuses. The University of Alberta is certifying its entire massive campus with our program, which is fantas

Environment committee  The issue is there, but I also think there's been a shift, to use the metaphor of 24 Sussex Drive that I wrote about in the Globe this week. I think the public has shifted away as well. I look at the beautiful job done here on this building. I used to work at PCO down the street,

Environment committee  Since we only have a few seconds, I'd like to answer in English. In just a few seconds, I'll say that we are the only organization that looks at the operational efficiency in the sense of sustainability efficiency and environmental efficiency for every existing commercial or ins

Environment committee  I would agree for sure.

Environment committee  Go ahead.

Environment committee  The yellow card is already up. I feel like I'm playing soccer.

Environment committee  Thank you very much for the extra time.

Environment committee  Thank you. The key message here is that new construction is a huge driver of the economy, and our members do that, but on the day-to-day operations, our core message is to resist the temptation to say that the new, shiny building is the best one. Sometimes they are; sometimes th

Environment committee  Thank you for the time. It's great.

Environment committee  I will go on to the second question, looking at provincial programs for energy efficiency retrofitting of buildings and how federal existing or new programs could further incentivize energy-efficient renovations. You've listed a bunch of them. Obviously, our view is that our pro

Environment committee  Actually, I was thinking about this slide in front of us. Our answer is that energy efficiency is energy efficiency, irrespective of whether the grid is cleaner or less clean. Actually, one thing missing from the slide is incentivizing on-site production of energy through solar

Environment committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. We will make our presentation in English, but if there are any questions in French, we can try to answer in that language. We just got notice a few days ago, as you've mentioned, so we prepared this short deck. We have a longer deck that's also ready for

Environment committee  I will just elaborate on one point that Randal made, and then I'll move on to the next question. A lot of people look at buildings as being static entities, where a guy with a broom comes at the end of the day, and that's the maintenance it requires. In fact buildings—and I hig