Government Operations committee  I could just say that I'm aware that work has been done at the National Energy Code for Buildings 2011 committee. They're projecting levels for 2015, which they're going to put forward at that time. I can't tell you what they are—they vary by building type—but there is work in th

Government Operations committee  I think the federal government should concentrate a lot of its effort in getting the provinces to adopt this latest version of the national code. I know it's going to be tough sledding, but it is something that's adjusted to climate and it can take into account energy cost. So it

Government Operations committee  You have to realize there are only a few provinces, a few jurisdictions in this country that have an energy requirement, if that's what we're talking about here. The national building code would apply. The provinces adopt the safety aspects of the national building code, but ther

Government Operations committee  I would add that I know that Public Works used to have an energy use database for their buildings; they had all the records for their buildings. I'm not sure about the lease versus owned category, but that certainly is, as he said, a place to start. You could even create your own

Government Operations committee  The only experience we've had is on 3P projects. There, it's an owner system. There's a 30-year lease. The energy is guaranteed over 30 years. At the end of that time, the building is turned back over to probably a public sector entity. I haven't had the same lease experience tha

Government Operations committee  I'll add something to the comments you've received so far in your question. The work we did in the early 2000s for Public Works, that was done for their technology directorate. I don't even know if it exists any longer. I do know that we always wondered why there wasn't any imple

Government Operations committee  I think that's reasonable, yes.

Government Operations committee  With respect to my point earlier about the Europeans, people have already mentioned that the Europeans have adopted a system where they have a target of so many units of energy per square metre, and each building has a label under its building code. I don't think they have any te

Government Operations committee  That's a good question. I would think what the government could maybe do is consider demonstration projects to show how, for example, we can achieve a net zero in buildings. That will use a lot of technologies that you wouldn't see on a day-to-day basis in building design. A lot

Government Operations committee  I was going to say I know the year he was talking about. I worked there when I first graduated, in the division of building research. The point I made earlier about code development, I think that's critical, but NRC doesn't have a mandate to get the provinces to adopt the code, r

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Government Operations committee  Good morning.