Procedure and House Affairs committee  I would add one thing to the point about attestations. I think a lot of people often miss that the signature on the attestation has to match up to a list of signatures that are at the polling station. It's not simply that you can ask anybody in the homeless shelter or in the soup

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think what we're saying is that we know for a fact that those people are the most likely to not be in the circumstances of that businessman and his wife who could go home, get their ID, and come back.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Right, and we're not going to know how many people are going to not vote, and how many people are going to be deterred from voting if this goes through as is.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, absolutely. I can say that in British Columbia the electoral officer there recently added prescription bottles as another form of identification that people could use. As Cara said—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. There is no vouching, but they are looking at what else they can put in place. What this bill is doing is taking something out. I don't see what the bill is proposing to put in place.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think nobody on the panel is saying the individuals who would require vouching are only going to be marginalized people, or only vulnerable people. I don't think any one of us is saying that. And as for—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, I think that the way that irregularity or serious irregularity has become conflated with fraud is a problem. If you look at all of the evidence that has been put forward and look at all of the studies that have been done—and this goes back even to 2007 when the voter identif

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't think I answered Mr. Reid's question properly, but the BCCLA was opposed to those voter identification rules when they came into force. In fact there is a charter challenge that has gone through at least two courts in B.C. and an application was just made this week for le

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Sure, I'll take a stab at that. I mentioned only one of our concerns because of the short time period, but clause 7 of the bill, which is the one you're talking about, which will amend section 18 by limiting the information that the Chief Electoral Officer can share with the pu

Procedure and House Affairs committee  My understanding of how things were before those amendments came into force in 2007 is that, while you may have been asked to provide identification at the poll, you were not required to do so unless the individual at the polling station, the official, had any concern about wheth

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair, and members of the committee. The B.C. Civil Liberties Association is a national, non-partisan, non-profit organization based in Vancouver. My statement will focus on the BCCLA's main concern with this bill, the removal of vouching. A constitutional chall

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  I am satisfied that there now is going to be notice to people within a 90-day period from the day on which they were intercepted, but for me, the question isn't, are people then going to be able to get involved in a possibly lengthy legal process to vindicate their rights that we

Justice committee  —certainly if the police—

Justice committee  Pardon me?