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Citizenship and Immigration committee  —so there are some areas where you don't see it. But beyond that, the possibilities are relatively wide.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, I think his answer spoke to the fact that if they're engaging in threats to national security, ultimately, at that stage, they are not well integrated into Canada. As to what their status may have been earlier, and whether they were at one time well integrated, they may w

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I can't speak specifically to the Toronto 18. That predated my time with CSIS. But we certainly do have instances; Mr. Khawaja, I believe, received training overseas, came back to Canada, and was involved in a threat related to the U.K.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I would start by saying—and then I'll turn it over—that it only appears that in many respects they're a step ahead of us, because those are the ones we haven't caught, dealt with, or apprehended in some way. That doesn't account for the many people who have been identified, some

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm in a similar circumstance in trying to speak to ongoing investigations. We obviously hold that information very closely. The level of description that I've offered is about the level of description that we feel comfortable with.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It is very difficult to determine numbers. The director recently referred to dozens—in the range of 45 to 60 individuals identified. It is a challenge because we will get reporting, for instance, that says, “There's a Canadian here”, and we don't know if this is a new individua

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  They travel to conflict zones, the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region, Syria, Yemen. Certainly we see Somalia as well. In those circumstances, they have the opportunity then to engage in terrorist activity. We know a number of them have been killed.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  In terms of investigating an act of war, we would not have a role per se; we investigate threats to national security. In terms of activities in support of the bill, I'm not sure whether we're talking about the bill as is. As is, we would have very little role.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's a many-layered question. We investigate threats to the national security of Canada, so a terrorist threat isn't part of the definition per se. A threat to the national security of Canada is defined in section 2 of the CSIS Act. In respect of investigations, I'm not sure tha

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Where I was going with those comments is that we have now a more diffuse international threat, because al-Qaeda-related affiliates, such as al-Shabaab, al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, and al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, now are the sites of power and sites of activity, by and

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's very difficult to define. Individuals who are radicalized are not in themselves targets of the service. CSIS is concerned with individuals who develop extremist beliefs, who are at risk of carrying out terrorist-related activity, or who act in support of terrorist-related

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No, I don't know the answer to that.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I think we will be able to tag team on this one. Certainly, we have seen in the post 9/11 environment that the al-Qaeda narrative has become more popular, and al-Qaeda itself took significant steps to propagate that narrative, resulting in increased threat. We've seen that for

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'll start, and if Chief Superintendent Oliver wants to comment, he can follow up. The Canadian passport, as you've described it, is an extremely valuable document for anyone travelling. As a result, it is subject to use and abuse in a limited number of circumstances by a small

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Peirce