Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I'm glad and thankful for the interesting meeting.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Thank you.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  It's being translated, but I can write to my colleagues saying that maybe the first thing to do would be to translate the summary, because the other is bigger.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  The thing is, in the western hemisphere it has taken a long time to view economic, social, and cultural issues as rights. The north refers to them as needs, but it's the push from the southern countries that has given the importance of treating them as rights. A need is something that you can answer to or not, but a right you have to answer to.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  The report was published last year in October, and now it's being translated into English. We're having a hard time in this process. In Spanish it is available. Would it be of any use to you in Spanish?

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I can ask them to get in touch with you as soon as there is a possibility of putting it online.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  It's good to hear your voice.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  To me that seems like a different approach. I do believe training in all.... As you said, setting up industry, giving good wages, helping the people, empowering the people to be more efficient or better trained, and of course, creating jobs are very positive things. When I hear about trade agreements, they tend to focus on commerce and interchange of products, which at this point is not done on an equal basis.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Oh, hi.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes. I think there has been persecution of the gay and lesbian community. Yes, that's considered a crime in Honduras.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  No, I don't see an improvement in the repression of anybody, in this case the gay and lesbian community, or anyone who does not agree with the coup and its continuation.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I agree that the crux of the problem is that economic power, the economic elite running the country. At the same time, they have to see the repercussions on the majority of the people. That's the question I ask myself. How long can you keep making the poor poorer? They should see that it's to the detriment of the whole country.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Like you say, if you're there, what would be the presence? If it's not just product, would you be trying to better the conditions of the majority?

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Like you said, it goes hand in hand. There's such an abyss between those who own the country and those who are marginalized or excluded, and it's hard to have law and order without justice. Yes, everyone talks about going against poverty, but the other side is the accumulation of wealth.