Public Safety committee  We have a mixed system. We still have detachments where officers are doing it. We have another 100 civilian personnel who are being hired, as we speak, to do more of that. It's in dribs and drabs, depending on the contract with the municipality. If they want to pay to have civili

Public Safety committee  Yes, and that's a very good question. They receive a week's training at the front end of their employment in some aspects of the use of force and some kind of personal safety protection. They receive training on how to safely handle prisoners, how to frisk them, how to secure the

Public Safety committee  No, it's mandatory. We have to train regularly, so it becomes very instinctive how we do things. There's a full week of mandatory training for police officers every year—40 hours in the legislation—and reminders, requalification of firearms, and what not. That's to a much lesser

Public Safety committee  Yes, I think that happened not so much because we were really looking specifically to do it. It morphed into that in a natural way. What we have to do now is to look at whether we can do more expansion of that, and we are. We're even looking at manager positions. Does this person

Public Safety committee  For sure, and that's really around the prevention piece. Every domestic assault that can be prevented saves some woman from being victimized. Every crime that can be prevented prevents some elderly person from losing their life savings or someone from being victimized or brutaliz

Public Safety committee  Provincially, it's all around the policing model and structure and service delivery model. In Ontario, there are 53 police services, plus the OPP. I think at some point that will be down to maybe 20, and the OPP. It's larger departments with more economies of scale. On the feder

Public Safety committee  I know Dale.

Public Safety committee  That's right.

Public Safety committee  It's both. Other issues in first nation communities impact on the police, such as a total lack of social service agencies, so the police end up having to do everything. They're really the only social service agency in Pikangikum for the most part. Because of budget cuts some of

Public Safety committee  It does. All these agencies work together in most communities, but in first nation communities most are non-existent.

Public Safety committee  It may. We have a lot of civilian personnel who work in that area for us. There are not all that many uniformed people. I don't know if there really would be a savings there or not. I've never done the analysis of that.

Public Safety committee  It's my pleasure.

Public Safety committee  The committee has police associations and police leaders on it. The OPP are involved in all the subcommittees, as well as ministry employees, managers, and a number of other advisors who are really looking at four different areas, which are law enforcement and victims' assistance

Public Safety committee  Exactly.

Public Safety committee  I'm not sure what our exact number of special constables is. I know there are at least a couple of hundred special constables. There was a time years ago when there was a handful. That number has increased exponentially as well.