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Natural Resources committee  I don't think so. I think that the product coming out of the tar sands is every bit as good as Mexican Maya, which trades at a $4 premium to WTI. The only difference is it doesn't get stuck in Cushing, Oklahoma. So if we can get world oil prices, I don't think we need to worry ab

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  Well, I think what you want to look at very carefully is what's going on in North Dakota right now. They're producing 780,000 barrels, and a very small fraction of that has pipeline access. In fact, they're banking on the Keystone XL to pick up 100,000. I think that would be an i

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  It's well intentioned, but I'm a market guy. I think if crack spreads say to build a refinery, then build a refinery, but if crack spreads don't say to build a refinery, then don't build a refinery. As I said in my earlier testimony, if we were able to get anything close to Bre

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  First of all, Blaine, I would take issue, because WTI is not the North American price.

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  If we had access, if Keystone XL actually went ahead and there was a physical arbitrage to the Gulf of Mexico, we would expect that the price differential between WTI and Brent would dissipate, because once oil got down to the gulf coast, it would be Light Louisiana Sweet, which

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  A price on carbon. I think a price on carbon is totally unnecessary. As I told Dr. Suzuki in our “travails” across the country, I'll take a global recession over a thousand Kyoto agreements. You see, we're not going to emit, I don't think, half of the carbon that the IPCC says.

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  Norway is a totally different situation. I mean, the one thing Canada has going for it, which should never be underestimated, is that most places in the world have this curious idea that hydrocarbon assets should belong to the state. I'm not talking about Saudi Arabia or Venezuel

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  Ms. Crockatt, you say that oil prices are declining. Are you aware that Brent averaged $112 last year? Are you aware that is an all-time high price for oil?

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  Are you aware that—

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  —gasoline prices in the United States average $3.50 a gallon, an all-time high, and yet you say that oil prices are declining? Well, I'll grant you, they ain't $200, but they're moving up.

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  Well, it doesn't really matter what I think, because prices will do the heavy lifting. Tar sands are not a new discovery. The only thing new about the tar sands is that they're a commercially viable source of supply, let alone what the IEA calls the world's third largest oil rese

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  That's the problem. Brent is what you need to get.

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  Yes, but we don't have to ship the oil to China; not that there is anything wrong with shipping the oil to China—

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  —but once you get to a port, once you get to the west coast, you can just ship it—

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin

Natural Resources committee  —to the United States. The United States is importing 10 million barrels a day. Why are they importing oil from Saudi Arabia? Why are they importing oil from Venezuela? We may be a lot farther than other places to China, but why wouldn't we increase our market share of U.S. impor

May 2nd, 2013Committee meeting

Jeff Rubin