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Transport committee They're facing a potential ban right now. This is before the Ontario Labour Relations Board. As I understand it, it was two unionized workers working on a Saturday, building a shed of all things, when their union filed the application for certification through the card check syst
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee I can comment very briefly on that. As an example, I do not know of one company in the electrical contracting business in Ontario that has any temporary foreign workers. Peers who are out west, specifically in the oil sands industry, have jobs on their job boards constantly. The
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee I think that we— Oh, sorry.
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee Whether you're an open-shop contractor or a closed-shop contractor on any project today, you have a defined scope of work that you have to follow. You have qualified people to do that work. You provide bid bonds and payment material bonds in order to ensure successful completion
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee Pierre, I think I can, and Terrance can help me if I run into a problem here. It's no different from what's happening with Kitchener-Waterloo right now. The Province of Ontario brought in card-based certification, which basically requires that if they have 55%-plus of the emplo
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee That's correct. There are many examples of this happening right across the province of Ontario with companies, and we are seeing it with municipalities now.
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee Once 50% are signed, they can have a vote. If they have 55% of the employees who have signed cards on the date that the application is filed, then it's automatic card-based certification.
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee —on a Saturday.
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee That is correct.
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee One thing you find which I think makes it more competitive in my industry, being open shop, is that there are no delineations, if you will. To give you a very easy example, I was an IBEW member for 15 years. Then I became an open-shop contractor. On projects that my people work
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee Yes, absolutely. We like to pride ourselves on our health and safety record. You would not be in business if you were not a safe organization. When it comes to being an open shop or a closed shop, all the rules apply to everybody. There are no studies that we've seen anywhere t
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee I can only speak to the construction sector, sir. I can tell you that the formalized training that electricians and apprentices go through in the province of Ontario is exactly the same, regardless of whether you are an open-shop tradesperson or a closed-shop tradesperson. I b
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee We've never seen any studies that show that whatsoever. If I look at Manitoba, as I mentioned before, they have a 2:1 ratio, so two apprentices to one electrician. British Columbia has no ratios whatsoever. Alberta has other schemes where senior apprentices don't factor into the
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic
Transport committee Good afternoon, and thank you for inviting me to be here today. It's my pleasure to have the opportunity to speak to you. I'm a local Ottawa electrical contractor and small business owner. There are many schemes that we have to contend with in the construction industry. Free an
April 30th, 2013Committee meeting
Walter Pamic