Health committee  A few examples of games.... Actually, Dr. Chang mentioned one. Just tracking your steps made people walk more. People are educated if they do a step game or a step challenge that tells them they need to have 10,000 steps today. When you get to 9,500, instead of turning into your house, you walk around the block one more time until you get to 10,000.

Health committee  Exactly.

Health committee  Just to piggyback on what was being said before, nothing is all things to all people. I think we've seen a lot of examples in the workplace where what the tool has done is it has actually empowered people to start walking and they use the tool to set dates to go walking together at lunch, because they're earning points for the challenge.

Health committee  I think smart phones are here to stay, unfortunately. I agree with you on the negative effect they have on kids. I see my nephews—my kids are small now—stuck in front of them. My angle would be to use them against them.

Health committee  Let's put smart information on there. Really, we need to educate them, so let's provide that education through their smart phones. It might be that it's a healthy game. Again, that goes back to gamification, so that if the game shuts down for 30 minutes, you have to go and run.

Health committee  I think the biggest obstacle we are seeing, and we talked a bit about it already today, is accessibility. How do we make it accessible to people? If your employer is providing it, or if a school is providing it, then you have that, but if they're not, then you need to be self-motivated to go out and search it out.

Health committee  That really depends on how it's implemented. As our company uses it right now, for the corporations that are using it, the cost is as low as 50¢ per employee per month.

Health committee  It's because there's a health crisis both north and south of the border, but theirs is actually more expensive than ours. They're more proactively looking at preventative measures right now, because of the correlations to what it saves on the care side.

Health committee  Absolutely, and to actually be engaged in healthy activity.... As an example, you mentioned a health club. I'm not here to take away the benefits of going to the health club, because equipment, and trainers, and all those things are good motivation and accountability tools, but if you work out with your body weight for 30 minutes, three times a week—

Health committee  The system actually reapplies different suggestions then as well. It gives different training or different advice based on how you journal.

Health committee  There are various health scores you can look at in assessments. It could be your biometric screening, so your blood work.

Health committee  Yes. For the blood work you'd have to go to a lab.

Health committee  No, but they like to be competitive. They're using their phones to have fun, so you can educate them while they're having fun and help them earn points.

Health committee  For youths, it's gamification.

Health committee  Online tools.