National Defence committee  It was not Mr. Walbourne.

National Defence committee  All I can say is that it was not a public servant, because the information is redacted as personal information.

National Defence committee  Yes. As I mentioned, the Clerk of the Privy Council had asked me to follow up on the information that Mr. Walbourne had raised with the minister, so I did follow up with Mr. Walbourne in that context.

National Defence committee  That is personal information at this point in time. I am not able to comment on who those people were. I worked through the Clerk and my boss, in terms of the next steps we would take.

National Defence committee  First, I can maybe clarify one point. In those emails, when I refer to a GIC appointee—and as you pointed out, it is now known to be the chief of the defence staff—the emails were crafted at that time with respect for the confidentiality of who we may be speaking about. That's th

National Defence committee  No. Those redactions were made under the construct of the Privacy Act and the Access to Information Act. Personal information does not apply to a public servant. [Technical difficulty—Editor]

National Defence committee  Thank you, Madam Chair and members of the committee, for the opportunity to appear again before you today, following my appearance February 19 alongside the deputy clerk of the Privy Council. I have been the deputy secretary to the cabinet for senior personnel and public servic

Public Accounts committee  You've raised an important perspective, and I think what I've tried to put forward, without commenting on the government's approach on the class action and how that will be managed, is that it is going to have to progress through legal channels. We will not stop working collabora

Public Accounts committee  I am not in a position to speak to that choice, but what I do want to say in the short time we have is that we are working very intensively and collaboratively with employee groups, such as the Federal Black Employee Caucus and the network of Black executives. All of those initia

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much. My point in that example was simply to say that we are working at the very grassroots level to try to make sure that there are culturally appropriate and sensitive processes and systems within the federal public service. That's just one small example. All de

Public Accounts committee  The question is important, and it is an important conversation, as you said. I think that certainly my reference to the work that has been done is an acknowledgement that people have been working on better equity and inclusion in the public service for many years, a long time. Th

Public Accounts committee  I am not trying to say that there are no discussions on both levels. My point about the court case is that I'm not in a position to comment on the specifics of that, as it is advancing through the legal system. It will be addressed and worked through. I think we have to realize t

Public Accounts committee  It is, as you have pointed out, a focus and a priority that the Clerk of the Privy Council has put out there for the public service. We are taking it very seriously and looking for significant concrete action to be taken at all levels of leadership. I would also highlight that,

Public Accounts committee  If I can answer the question with respect to deputy ministers, the accountability regime is essentially the performance management program, which is an established program. It has been in place for some time. It's outlined on our website. It does require a rigorous process of eva

Public Accounts committee  It's okay.