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Canada-China Relations committee  That's a very important question. My assumption would be that the effect of restrictions on Chinese exports to Canada would be more disruptive, at least in the short term. Tariffs would be bearable, and obviously prices would increase, but if we're saying an absolute stoppage of

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  In that sense you're correct, in the sense that exports of pulp and paper, let's say, go to India, let's say. India might divert some of their trade to Canada that they would have taken elsewhere, but you're right. If you have an automobile being assembled in Ontario, let's say,

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  You can do that. My worry sometimes is that you get into a tit-for-tat on trade issues. The Chinese can out “tat” you in some sense. They have many levers, and their government can pull those levers so easily.

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  That's a super important question. Of course, that relationship has been negative, and it's getting worse. We're about to enter—it seems to be always the case—more intensive political campaigning in the United States. It won't end until 2024. I think you'll see both parties camp

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  At a time in my long past, I worked on Africa for what is now Global Affairs, and I've been to Africa. I follow it very closely, looking at it from a Chinese lens. The Chinese are all over Africa. They're the number one trading partner for most African states. Africans will tell

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  We have a very large cohort of Canadians of Chinese heritage. They would normally, and do, start up businesses. They often have or come to Canada with trade contacts, but it's not just those. The officers of not just Asian private companies, but CEOs and CFOs of large Canadian co

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you. I would say just grosso modo—and I'm simplifying—the dependency declines as you move east. It's most severe in western Canada, British Columbia and the prairie provinces, where the percentage of trade with China is higher and most notable in certain sectors, particula

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  I think in fairness I should allow Madam Ong to go first, please.

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  The China Institute has the most comprehensive database of Chinese investment in this country. You asked a question about if there were a conflict over Taiwan, a vulnerable southern ally. The investment, in my view, would be the smaller part. The biggest effect would be the disr

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you so much. I've had the opportunity to serve in Canadian embassies in three communist countries on three different continents. It's not an easy question to answer, but the watchword for me—and the reason I'm careful—is that I served in eastern Europe. My job was actually

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  Who is the question for?

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  The word “genocide” is the strongest one of all. Even the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights spoke of “crimes against humanity” in the report he produced after his visit. If we are talking about genocide in the sense of the repression of a minority, I agree. If we

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  First of all, I'd say that Jim Nickel, our chargé d’affaires, whom I know very well and who is now going off to Taipei, has done a stellar job in the absence of an ambassador. Having an ambassador is symbolically important, but it is substantively important as well. It allows b

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  From Gordon Houlden, the answer would be no.

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden

Canada-China Relations committee  Perhaps I will speak first.

October 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Gordon Houlden