Industry committee  It's even smaller. In the MRO section of our industry, the average size of a company is nine people. It really is a very small industry because the thing with MROs is that you can service business jets anywhere that somebody can fly them in.

Industry committee  In conjunction with government, that's the problem we're trying to solve. I don't have an answer for it but I know it's the thing that I would like to find a solution to.

Industry committee  Most of that money is being spent at the top end of the industry, on what I would have referred to as balance sheet innovation. That's where most of the private.... The business investment into R and D, as was noted previously, is clearly at the top end. A lot of that would have

Industry committee  No, and there are a number of initiatives under way. We need to get the industry connected to the educational institutes and find out what jobs are needed. There was recently a very large labour market information study done, not by us but by the Council for Aviation & Aerosp

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Yes. The problem is that companies that started out as entrepreneurial innovators are run by guys who like to be entrepreneurial innovators. There is a psychological gap that has to be crossed to turn those guys into process innovators. Frankly, I think that's where some of the c

Industry committee  —a lot of them involve a lot of other stakeholders. It's complicated, but it is something that the industry is quite concerned about.

Industry committee  This is one of the abiding concerns that we have in our industry. Because of the cycle that we find the global industry in, where we really are in an execution cycle, this makes it very difficult for entrepreneurial innovators in aerospace. Airplanes have been designed and now th

Industry committee  No. There's even a slide in that report that says growth is occurring in the mid-sized....

Industry committee  I don't want to appear to avoid the question, but really, I don't know the answer. It is the same question that we are asking ourselves, and we are working very hard on it to come up with coherent answers to help the government. I don't have a short answer for you, no.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  We need a strategy that recognizes the business reality on the ground, which is that the engine of growth has to be the mid-sized companies, and the mid-sized companies are under a lot of different kinds of pressures that they need help to manage.

Industry committee  Of course, you also have Kelowna Flightcraft, which is the real star in the industry.

Industry committee  It isn't the subject that comes up very often. Typically, we as an association don't represent...airlines are representing the manufacturers. Most of the companies that are the targets of what I call the process innovators are by and large privately owned. They tend to be indivi

Industry committee  Okay.