Finance committee  It is.

Finance committee  Well, I can tell you that my community is, for sure. I can tell you that our province is, and most jurisdictions across the country are. Pensions are not sustainable as they stand right now, and they have to be dealt with.

Finance committee  First of all, I think we have to acknowledge the fact that we have a problem in this country from coast to coast to coast. I think all the federation has ever asked for, when we deal with these national issues, is that everybody, whether urban or rural, east or west or north or s

Finance committee  Yes, there is.

Finance committee  I did, sir.

Finance committee  There has to be a recognition of that responsibility, and that's precisely why the Federation of Canadian Municipalities has put this issue on the front burner.

Finance committee  I think we've done well, but there's still a long way to go.

Finance committee  I certainly do. It's a huge figure over the 20-year period. It makes it actually worth something in real terms.

Finance committee  Correct.

Finance committee  There really shouldn't be any unspent money. There's a great need in this country for a number of things. Housing is just one type of infrastructure. There shouldn't be a whole lot of money left over.

Finance committee  That is fair.

Finance committee  Absolutely. We're very appreciative of that, and I mentioned it in my presentation. It did give us an opportunity to in fact participate in the process at the various stakeholder meetings that you had. As an association, we felt it was a true partnership, and that's very importa

Finance committee  They seem to be receptive. We're happy with the relationship we have not only with the government but with all the parties on the Hill. Things don't change that much. We're focusing right now on housing, but the infrastructure is a very important part of what we do as well.

Finance committee  Oh, I'm happy.

Finance committee  Can I say that?