Procedure and House Affairs committee  As my personal opinion, I'm not sure there's a public outcry right now about how politicians set their salaries. Every time a legislative chamber increases salaries, of course, it is a news story for a few days, but I'm not sure there's any public movement to change that system.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think it makes total sense to do that. Of course, as I've said, the more detailed the better. The more the public understands exactly how its money is being spent, the better the understanding and the better it is for Parliament.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Sure.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm not sure I can comment on behalf of the CAJ about the direction of pay and subsidies.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Sure.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't think anybody should wait to do that.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Our concern is less with the composition of the board and more with the way the board deliberates—whether it's in private or in public.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Sure it is. Absolutely. Something being easily—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Absolutely.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm not overly familiar with the IPSA system.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think they are both problematic. If their approach is to go in camera first by default, using basically the same set of rules, then I'm not sure it matters who's behind those doors. The point is that the public is not welcome.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That makes sense. That sounds like what Mr. Walsh was suggesting to the committee: having two subcommittees, I believe it was for finance and for administration. They could then deliberate outside of those doors and come back.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm not sure I can say something like the public is more concerned now than ever about transparency. I think the public has always been concerned about transparency. There are issues with every government. Right now there are issues this current government is facing that people l

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'd rather not comment on whether or not an independent body or independent oversight is more or less appropriate. That's not really my expertise either.