Veterans Affairs committee  I'm going to say one thing here. As Mr. Gill and others have stated, there's this umbrella of money being spent in Ottawa here—

Veterans Affairs committee  We were just going to say that how we're measuring the effectiveness of the new Veterans Charter is to see what actually goes to the individual people. This is sometimes where we're at a disconnect. The courts are going to look at what goes to individual people, what benefit they

Veterans Affairs committee  I could talk about universality of service, but I am no expert on the universality of service, so I wouldn't want to mislead the committee as to what I do and do not know on that. I'm familiar with it in a broad sense, but I'm no expert.

Veterans Affairs committee  That's a very good question. What happens—we get a lot of this from the wives—when a soldier is injured, say in Afghanistan, is that they come back, and there's this initial gathering around. Then they find out that they will not meet the universality of service and they'll be r

Veterans Affairs committee  Good.

Veterans Affairs committee  He's training himself. He just put himself through a paramedic training program and he's going to try to become an ambulance attendant, but he's paying for all those courses himself.

Veterans Affairs committee  We can do that because all of that information is in the pleading and some of it's in that 72-page document that I've just given. So we're open to providing that and having an analysis.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes we've always said that if you want.... One of the biggest issues, and I don't want to gobble up your time, is people's right to privacy of their medical records. What we've said to all of the representative plaintiffs is that if you begin this process, you are now open to eve

Veterans Affairs committee  That's a good question. A lot of people have asked what the solution is, and I've always said to every person, “Just acknowledge that there are some gaps, acknowledge that there are some problems, and then seek to close those gaps and those problems”. One of the concerns I have i

Veterans Affairs committee  Reintegration of our members back into civilian life is very important. It is top priority. We support that.

Veterans Affairs committee  The disability award....

Veterans Affairs committee  Oh, the issue with the lump sums is that you have a series of lump sum programs. For the partially disabled, like my son, it's just a lump sum; that's it. Then you have lump sums in the cases of people who are discharged from the military and they get some earning loss and some

Veterans Affairs committee  You have basically three streams and you're trying to say it with one term: “We make lump sum payments”. That's the biggest criticism of the new Veterans Charter. Lump sums are sometimes the only form of payment, and sometimes they're part of an extensive benefit package.

Veterans Affairs committee  You just had one second—

Veterans Affairs committee  I haven't, but I've seen this case before—