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National Defence committee  If I've heard you correctly, who else could launch cruise missiles at North America? I do believe it's a state-based capability. I don't think a non-state actor has or will have in the near future that capability. I do think you're looking specifically at Russia. North Korea is focused on ballistic missiles right now.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  Canada has five tankers, and they're based in Trenton. I think that that's sufficient, but just barely sufficient, because oftentimes our tankers are required overseas. I guess that would be the short answer. If you have one tanker dedicated to the Syrian theatre, one in refit, another one dedicated to perhaps some other mission, and then one for North America, then you are cutting it awfully close.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  Yes, I think Canadians would accept it as a threat if presented with the evidence, and I think we are seeing the evidence based on some of the capabilities I laid out in my presentation, and also intent. As a threshold, of course, we saw the action in Georgia and in Ukraine, so it has shown a pattern of behaviour.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  It will be a long time before they'll be built.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  What was requested originally in 2004 by the Bush administration was a political commitment. There has been no request since then. Although we talk about it north of the border, and I'm sure the United States would want Canada to join, they have not officially requested that we join again.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  I don't know what the financial investment would be. We were talking about notable detection problems, and I mentioned that perhaps the United States is looking for another location to locate sensors or interceptors. It is looking in different locations across the United States, but it could also look at Canadian territory.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  Our fighter bases are located based on the Cold War threat. I agree that it can be very difficult for our aircraft to get to our major cities in time to address a threat. So the United States would have to address that threat and go over our border. So, yes, it probably would make sense to relocate that base closer to the urban centre.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  The air assets don't stay at the base at all times. For instance, we have F-18s sometimes at Uplands airport here in Ottawa; they deploy to different locations around Canada. It's a matter of making sure they're on location when a threat arises or when it's thought that there might be a potential threat.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  Detecting that would require the ability to detect ships, and that's what the RADARSAT Constellation will be able to do. RADARSAT-2 already can do it; the problem is that it's not a Constellation, and in order to have persistent surveillance, you need.... I know the Constellation plan is for three satellites, but it might be that they need four or five for persistent surveillance of the Arctic region.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  Are you referring to mining and offshore oil and that sort of thing?

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  An aerial asset can be used for detection but would not be used for response, in my view.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  No, I think a decision should go ahead right away. My hope is that the statement of requirements is being drafted. I am sure it has been drafted or is in process because it has been six months since the election. I think, absolutely, sooner rather than later. My understanding is that the F-18s will fly to about 2025.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  I see, I see. Yes. The cruise missile one is just one that has stood out for years, and it's a tough one to tackle. That's why it stood out. The other component may be on the ballistic missile side. The United States is looking to increase its detection capabilities against North Korea, and that could possibly be a gap.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  Yes, a ground-based detection system would help. It's a matter of where you locate them. We have in the past had air defence systems located on the east and west coasts. I believe they have been de-commissioned. Ground-based systems based in northern parts of Canada in specific locations would help.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan

National Defence committee  Yes, the Arctic would be a good location. You mentioned the action against Iran and Syria. The thing about the new long-range cruise missile that surprised the international community was that it was not necessary for Russia to use that cruise missile against Syria, because it was designed to evade air defences in a much more powerful country.

April 12th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. Elinor Sloan