Transport committee  The criteria is very simple: if you have any incidents at all with tank cars that are moving the product. If there was an incident, that gets counted as an incident. It doesn't have to be a major incident. It could be any incident that was reported, very minor, but it still was a

Transport committee  Let me add to that. At the end of the day, we don't own the cars. At CN we're changing out the cars we own. We have a plan. We just can't get it done in faster than three years, so we're going to take the three or four years to get it done. We'll do ones this year.

Transport committee  I understand, but we have been clear as a rail industry that we need the cars. We've said what new type of tank car we need in place and we need the governments to step forward and say it's time to change out the DOT-111s, looking at everything and how fast it can be done. We wou

Transport committee  Did we do a specific risk assessment on...? We do a risk assessment on the totality of what we move, and the changes and the flows. We don't tie it...because there are changes in flows. Depending on where they're headed, it makes a big difference. We do have some risk assessm

Transport committee  I am not in the position to comment about that. I don't know what we did. I was not in that part of the—

Transport committee  I was in the U.S. for five years before I came to Canada.

Transport committee  We have liability and we look at what we need to carry for insurance, and we're carrying enough insurance. We have never had anything near the level of insurance that we carry—nowhere near.

Transport committee  I'm just telling you that we are very diligent in how we go through this process. I was asked by one of the members, and I'm sure he knew the number before he asked me, about the amount of revenues that we have. We have a responsibility as a company to make sure that we handle th

Transport committee  I'm going to pass this off to Michael Farkouh, our vice-president of safety and sustainability, just to start off on how we measure the SMS. Before I do that, however, let me comment on employee engagement. We engage with our unionized employees, and all our employees, on a num

Transport committee  We usually have employees who get there very quickly because we're spread out. For example, in Winnipeg we have facilities very close. Usually if there's something, the first responder—the conductor is on site, the locomotive engineer is on site—will advise. Usually if you're wi

Transport committee  If it's something new, then absolutely. We sit down and tell them that we have a new product on line, and if there's a different handling for the product, then we need to let the communities know, and we'll let them know.

Transport committee  There's a long list of items that we have on objectives and safety. It's communication with our employees, communication with the communities that we operate through, making sure that we're advocates putting our position forward, showing leadership in tank cars, removal of the DO

Transport committee  We own 40 of them, and the 40 are gone. We lease another 118 and we have a program to get rid of them over the next three years as we're able to put them in the mix to get them built. As for the safety program, the numbers are already open to anybody who wants to see them. The T

Transport committee  As long as we don't get surprised with the product, absolutely. That's why I can't sit here and say I'm not going to move a new product that has slightly different configuration. But if we know about it, absolutely, we want to be able to tell the people.

Transport committee  There's community engagement, Saint Mary's on safety culture, and in fact, if people want—