Transport committee  Exactly. What I look for is what the leadership is doing, because I'm a watchdog on the safety culture side. You need to look and see what the leadership is actually doing. I actually measure how many times the senior manager will go on site and talk to people about safety, for e

Transport committee  It takes a while to develop a safety culture. It's not going to happen instantaneously. It's a discipline. You have to invest in it.

Transport committee  It falls right into my area of daily work, safety culture. It starts with leadership. Once an organization has the leadership, you have to be able to go out and set examples. You have to talk to people. You have to talk to the people involved in the process and reassure them tha

Transport committee  Exactly.

Transport committee  No. That's not a scale that we operate on.

Transport committee  No. For example, when it comes to ERAPs and the processing of ERAPs, and now there will be additional ERAPs required under the directive, there already was a holdup on getting ERAPs processed and now there's going to be a burden of many new ERAPs so—

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  Well, I can't speak exactly for railroad training.

Transport committee  First responders are something that, as I shared, for our distributors, we are working with to provide education. For example, we have a website, TDGER, and we—

Transport committee  No, I hadn't said that.

Transport committee  I would say the short answer to that question is yes. There's a lot of interaction with the first responders, the fire chiefs, and also with the municipalities, those that have the code. Yes, we need to look at how response is going to happen. We need to consider the impact. We h

Transport committee  With our member companies it largely depends on the ability of the destination, what they can receive. Some of our member customers do not have rail siding. Some are only able to receive in contained factory packages. For us, it's largely what the end user is capable of safely ha

Transport committee  Thank you, and on behalf of the Canadian Association of Chemical Distributors, we welcome this opportunity to share with the committee today. I'll just say right off the start here that I think all of the associations represented here today are on the same page. The Canadian Ass