Information & Ethics committee  That's the issue we looked at in Clearview. If you're within a category or circumstance in which the police should be able to use facial recognition and rely on the technology of a private sector partner, we think the police should ensure the private sector partner has acted lawf

Information & Ethics committee  It is through principles-based legislation, augmented—when need be, given the context—by more specific legislation. I will add this. I heard you ask certain witnesses at this committee if it's too late. It's never too late. Actually, the fact that certain practices are currently

Information & Ethics committee  There's nothing unreal about it, and the legislation put forward in Europe, which I just mentioned, is designed to prohibit such practices, because they constitute a genuine risk already.

Information & Ethics committee  Can you give us a little more detail about terrorism? Are you talking about people who might want to enter the country by falsifying data?

Information & Ethics committee  It's not impossible. That gets us back to the idea of protections on the use of facial recognition. Extremely tight security is needed to prevent such risks.

Information & Ethics committee  It is conceivable that warrants may be required in some cases. When we recommend that legislation define “allowable” and “prohibited” uses, we have in mind categories of circumstances, such as serious crime, however parliamentarians may want to define it. It's that kind of thing.

Information & Ethics committee  Our starting point as commissioners—me and my provincial and territorial colleagues—is that the law should ultimately define “allowable” and “prohibited” circumstances for the use of FRT, facial recognition. That's because we are of the view that there are compelling circumstance

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, the recommendations that we are making would apply to public spaces as well.

Information & Ethics committee  We're back to the question that I answered a few minutes ago. Principles-based, technology-neutral legislation for the private sector makes sense as a starting point. The reason we're recommending that there be specific legislation for police forces has to do with the harms of

Information & Ethics committee  Exactly.

Information & Ethics committee  Clearview has stated to us that they have left the Canadian market. They are not offering their services at this point to anyone in Canada.

Information & Ethics committee  Today I, along with provincial and territorial commissioners, have made a number of recommendations to amend the law. I think it should be done urgently, because the risks are very important. It starts with better laws. Until such time as laws are amended, we have issued guidan

Information & Ethics committee  No, but we should look at this as an institutional issue. I would tend to look at it through the eyes of the institution, rather than in terms of individuals. We've made recommendations for the RCMP to improve its processes, but I'm not aware of any sanctions.

Information & Ethics committee  Personally, I am not. Perhaps some of my colleagues at the OPC are aware of it. We can provide information if we have any.

Information & Ethics committee  If we have information, we'll provide it.