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Information & Ethics committee  I would say simply this: not necessarily a privacy shield, but laws need to be interoperable between countries and within Canada.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  It is true that we have had meetings roughly every two weeks with the Public Health Agency on various measures related to COVID and their impact on privacy. In the period in question—it was in the early days of the pandemic, March and April 2020—there were a lot of subjects being

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  Data is de-identified because it was originally identifiable. We start with personal information. There's no question that a telco like Telus had information about its users' mobility data, because it is necessary for Telus to obtain that information in order to deliver the servi

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  We were not consulted. We asked for information in late 2021 about this process and were given some information, but I would not say that this constituted a consultation. We were informed.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  Transparency is tough. As I said in my opening remarks, the government has a COVIDTrends web page that does a fairly good job of explaining to Canadians that their mobility data is used. You don't need to go through a 60-page privacy policy to find that out, but in order to get t

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  I think this is the case generally, that people do not have an awareness or a consciousness of the many ways in which their data is used. Hopefully a cellphone user would know that their data is collected by Telus and maybe by a few companies around Telus, but they would not know

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, and the government introduced legislation in the previous Parliament precisely to improve Canadians' confidence in how their data was being used.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  I am going to somewhat reiterate the answer I gave earlier to Mr. Green. In our annual reports, we explained that in general terms. I will go back to the trust part of your question. Consent and control are ways to ensure that Canadians have trust. However, I don't believe that

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  Yes. On the one hand, they must exercise their consent and, on the other, they must place their trust in someone else.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  Obviously, that would be people who want to innovate with as few limitations or restrictions as possible, like the idea that de-identified information would not be subject to privacy protection.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  On the question of proactive verifications, I'll say this. The idea is not to be a thorn in the side of governments or companies that want to innovate responsibly. The point is that data flows are so complex and business models are so complex that individual Canadians are not wel

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  I would not go to the motivation of a company. I would go to what safeguards we're applying.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  That is what we would investigate.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  Mr. Turcotte, you may want to answer this one.

February 7th, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien