Transport committee  Yes, the operator will actually look at making sure it's done in a safe environment, and that's what we've seen happening. But if you look at the actual regulation, in the actual rules, it's not supposed to happen. That's where you can have a little bit of concern on that front.

Transport committee  No, I think that's good. Thank you.

Transport committee  A safety management system is something that we're promoting and pushing and saying is important and should be implemented everywhere, but people have a tendency to think that because you've devised a system, everything will be solved. You're dealing with people operating ships.

Transport committee  They do and they often do, yes.

Transport committee  Honestly, it could be any of the three. I'm not pointing a finger in one direction specifically, but in terms of your first question, if we have the right to refuse, the policy for the majority of our operators is that “if you don't know, they don't go”. If you don't know what's

Transport committee  Just briefly, I provided the example of the three to five kilometre issue. There are some other things that we can certainly talk about, for example, personal liquid oxygen for people who have breathing issues. Technically, that's only supposed to be allowed on a ship if hooked u

Transport committee  It's an interesting question. When Minister Raitt came to our meeting last week, to our annual conference, she certainly made a clear statement that she recognized the importance of the ferry sector. The fact that the operation of ferries is regulated by acts that regulate anythi

Transport committee  I'm not convinced of that, sir. I think we have some ferries that actually cover a number of ports. I think it's the port that has adapted to the ferry, not the ferry adapted to the port. I think you may see a new ferry brought into service in Atlantic Canada very soon, which is

Transport committee  There are protocols set by Transport Canada and there are further protocols set by various companies on top of that.

Transport committee  Absolutely.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  It's hard to provide the data. We're actually assembling the data as we speak, and we're getting some information on that. Transport Canada has the data, because it is something that we have to report. It is something that Transport Canada would have. You're correct in saying t

Transport committee  Yes, we have to know what's on the trucks before they get on it. As I mentioned, and I gave you a little hint, we have to rely on the voluntary declaration by the truck drivers. Although we do our own inspections on occasion, we do rely on what is said for some of them. We, on

Transport committee  There are some inspections of trucks. I don't know if it's by Transport Canada or the provincial ministries of transportation, but there are some inspections. What we would like to see is a little bit more inspections of trucks prior to their coming on board our ships.

Transport committee  The voluntary aspect is a bit difficult.