Transport committee  I can't speak for the European countries. I can say, however, that from our perspective, our board of director's position on this is that reciprocity is the key. To the extent that those markets are open to Canadian firms, then the markets in Canada should be open to them. From t

Transport committee  Well, our position would be that the public entity has the right to compete in that open competition. The problem has been, though, that there isn't any competition. There is no tender. They just decide they're going to do that work. We have a situation now where some public enti

Transport committee  Correct.

Transport committee  Yes. There are two questions. One is whether non-union construction workers can live up to the same standards and comply with the same labour conditions, etc. as unionized workers. Absolutely. Law-abiding contractors do so. No matter what their union affiliation is, law-abiding

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  The Canadian experience class was created just for that purpose.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  No, it's bureaucracy under the guise of environmental protection. It's not environmental assessment; it's simply jurisdictional fiefdom building and uncertain law. What we want is a situation in which a truly vigorous environmental assessment is done once and with certainty, so

Transport committee  No. Again, if you have an environmental plan and there are environmental conditions you have to meet, that's just like meeting any condition on a contract. That's what you are legally obligated to meet.

Transport committee  Well, I know that our members, in some cases, have agreements both with traditional building trades and with CLAC. In some provinces they are non-unionized and in other provinces they are unionized. So, very much the same employer uses the labour relations situation, depending up

Transport committee  Yes, but our point is in restricting or limiting the competition, it doesn't matter who you limit or restrict it to, that's going to impact the price. It doesn't matter whether you're union-free, whether they're traditional building trades, or whether they're the CLAC union, if y

Transport committee  That's probably a fair assumption, yes.

Transport committee  Correct.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  You're assuming that in those situations the inflated price comes completely from the pricing and not from something that's unique or strange about the job to begin with—