Canadian Heritage committee  No. We have a partnership with the NAC, but we do not fund the NAC. We partner on some projects. The NAC is a Crown corporation, and the Canada Council is a Crown corporation.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes.

Canadian Heritage committee  I won't comment on the situation at the NAC, but what I want to say is that when I was at the launch of the season, I realized that almost all the projects that will be presented in the first season are supported by the Canada Council with our program.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, but they have the program. The Canada Council has a program, but our program is to fund indigenous arts across Canada—

Canadian Heritage committee  —to be presented across Canada, including on the stage of the NAC in the context of the indigenous program. We welcome that program. We think it's really important. We're investing heavily to make sure that the work that will be presented there will be of top quality.

Canadian Heritage committee  What we are trying to do right now is.... Our motto is more or less “Let's not do more of the same with the new money,” so we opened up and we accepted a lot of new applicants. We accepted a lot of new organizations that now receive ongoing funding from the Canada Council, and ev

Canadian Heritage committee  It's coming—

Canadian Heritage committee  Absolutely, yes.

Canadian Heritage committee  I will give you an example. What we call an “institution” is an organization that has a budget of more than $2 million, so it has a certain size of operation. In Canada right now, the level of Canada Council funding that goes to institutions is roughly 22%. In a province such a

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes.

Canadian Heritage committee  It's not true.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, absolutely. It has been changed.

Canadian Heritage committee  I absolutely agree with you, but it's not true. We need to realize that the issue with Alberta is something that I'm very familiar with. We are very concerned about that situation. What we want to do is grow the demand from the bottom up to the Canada Council. Actually, we are

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm sorry; we did not have a surplus. The surplus you saw in the financial statement is a surplus on paper because of our investment. It has nothing to do with the money we had to spend. As I said before, 90% of the new money we got has been spent and is right now in the hands