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National Defence committee  I think we see both ships right now at about 2021, beginning of the year and end of the year. That will continue to refine as we do all the design work I talked about, but that would still be the view.

November 17th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

National Defence committee  We have, collectively. Again, our colleagues at Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada feed us those numbers, and they have. I just don't have them with me. I apologize.

November 17th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

National Defence committee  They were telling us last week that just in the yard, their shipbuilding workforce is now over 500, and engineers and procurement specialists beyond that. Of course, in that whole supply chain of systems and pipework and cable, it would be in the thousands. Again, I just don't ha

November 17th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

National Defence committee  These are local engineers. We do have a reach-back to the company, ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems. They have a Canadian division as well, and have actually hired in Canada. That's really to make sure that if we have any questions about interpretation of the design package or things

November 17th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

National Defence committee  We started in 2008. We received Government of Canada approval in 2010 and issued the requests for proposal. In late 2012 we signed the umbrella agreements with the two yards. They then spent about 36 months each completely recapitalizing their facilities, impressively so. As Ms.

November 17th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

National Defence committee  Again, I think it's a better question for Admiral Lloyd. He and I have talked about this. We had to prematurely, from the perspective of what we wanted to do, retire the two Preserver-class ships. We were at two, so we replaced capability by capability. I think time will tell. I

November 17th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

National Defence committee  In all of these contracts, under the aegis of the defence procurement strategy that was announced a few years ago, we now have weighted and rated value propositions. As part of those value propositions, there will be aboriginal offsets and other things built in. Now, the bidders

November 17th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much for that question. As the ADM responsible for materiel, I oversee all the aspects of the inventory, including location and value, etc. One of the things we're trying to do with this plan, and I'm going to call it a cultural change as well.... I've been in t

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the comments. A system in chaos.... Did we wind up there particularly in the context of, I'll say, some of the valuation of inventory? Perhaps. I was talking about all the procurements. We have inventory that goes back 50 years that is still inventory that we nee

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much for the question. What we're trying to do here is to make sure we have an understanding of our inventory overall. This means the location of it, the quantity of it, the state of it, and ultimately the price of it from a valuation perspective. The latter is ke

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  When we talk about the automated identification technology, we have some of that technology today. We have high-value items that are bar-coded. We use hand scanners. Some of our processes are dated. We're renewing all of our processes. We're doing a lot of work. We're using the t

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  There are actually two consecutive phases. We do the options analysis on all of our major projects to look at just that—what the options are, and how we should proceed. The options analysis for the automatic identification technology started a few years ago. We looked at it at th

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  It could be, from option analysis through definition, implementation, contract awards, and delivery. Yes.

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  Yes. I think the point—

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn

Public Accounts committee  From the context of inception and definition of the problem, we're not selecting technology. We're doing problem definition from a corporate perspective, if I can call it that. What was the budget? How does this fit? How does this fit in the overall defence budget? Where do we fi

November 24th, 2016Committee meeting

RAdm Patrick Finn