Public Safety committee  I'm sorry. The bottom line is that we need much more interaction on a casual, informal, non-official basis and the resources imply it that way.

Public Safety committee  It starts with policy. It starts with your mindset. The job of the police, historically, has been to solve crime and to prevent crime. They are not security-oriented. Security goes beyond that. Security goes into analyzing what can happen before the event occurs. In that sense, i

Public Safety committee  I think there are two elements to it, sir. As I said, we believe in independent, expert, non-partisan oversight of our national security agencies as a better model than political intervention, or if you will, a sort of partial review. Australia's inspector-general is an independ

Public Safety committee  Indeed. If I may, I'll have to respond in English because I was educated in a different country. Let me just say this. With respect to the Toronto 18, we at the institute started a series of inter-agency meetings just for people to get together. We had the RCMP, the OPP, and the

Public Safety committee  Yes, sir.

Public Safety committee  Absolutely. Thank you for your indulgence. Let me just say that while we recognize that all legal rights may be invested in the crown, the action of the crown, as we've heard tonight, is limited by the toleration of the people. The Magna Carta demonstrated this centuries ago.

Public Safety committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As chair of the Mackenzie Institute's board of governors, I am going to deliver the presentation, but our general manager, Andrew Majoran, will be able to respond to questions as well. The board thanks the chair and the committee for the opportunity to