National Defence committee  For this year, I think it would be roughly about the same, but I haven't done the updated calculation.

National Defence committee  I'll ask Claude to do the math.

National Defence committee  That's under the security program. Again, we kind of run this program on behalf of the whole of government, so departments apply to us to do research in areas of national security. They can apply. We rate the proposals with Public Safety, and then we're kind of the holder of the

National Defence committee  We're approaching this in a couple of phases. The first phase was the transfer to us of up to $400,000. We'll put in place systems and processes. We eventually hope to move that, then, to $1 million and then to $5 million. When we've done this process, 80% of the defence procurem

National Defence committee  Yes. We're going to want to track how well we're doing. The whole goal of this process is to move things faster. We're taking care of the lower-value, more numerous procurements. We want to try to do them quicker.

National Defence committee  We're doing it in three phases, so that we're well prepared and have the processes in place. When we get up to the final stage, about 80% of the defence procurement will be done by us and Public Services will do the rest, including the higher-value, larger projects, like fighter

National Defence committee  We'll take it in these three bites and then we'll see where we go from there.

National Defence committee  Actually, we're transferring money to Shared Services to support our Canadian defence attachés overseas. It gives them money to put the IT equipment in and provide the IT support for our personnel overseas. That would be the $12,000 that we're transferring, if that's the one you'

National Defence committee  Sorry. I'm unclear....

National Defence committee  Are you referring to the payroll system?

National Defence committee  Actually, that's money coming back to us from Public Services of about $2 million. For the military payroll system, we...is that the one you're referring to?

National Defence committee  Mr. Chair, which item are we on? Is it the transfer for the payroll system?

National Defence committee  I understand.

National Defence committee  The military has its own pay system that is separate from that of the public service. In 2014, the Treasury Board approved that we go ahead with a project to modernize military pay. In 2015, they asked us to move military pay into Phoenix. We looked at that and last June, we asse

National Defence committee  It's always been separate and it will continue to be separate pay, just for the military. However, that's different from the pension system.