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Finance committee There are two things there. First of all let me shatter some misnomers. In the U.K. 47% of all the people who have been convicted for Islamist terrorism had a university education, and six of them were presidents of U.K. Islamic societies in the universities. Nearly 49% of the pe
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee Based on what you've just told me, you have made one of the biggest mistakes that we've made over the last five years. Our U.K. government did not focus on non-violent extremism for the last five years. I believe that is one of the main reasons we are faced with the problems we'r
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee No, you've correctly recognized the trends and patterns. You're right that this is not something new. One of the main differences for us now, living in the U.K., Canada, and the west, is that this has a direct impact and effect on us. That's probably one of the main reasons we a
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee First of all, the threat is real. We have a team that monitors and follows these individuals in Iraq and Syria, and we work with a number of agencies around the world to provide support. I can go on the record now and say that there are stories of 9-year-olds, 12-year-olds, 14-ye
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee We have Iran and we have individuals in Saudi Arabia. We have some individuals in Kuwait, and mainly Middle Eastern countries. The two countries that I would say are not as bad as the others are certainly the United Arab Emirates and perhaps, in a fashion, Jordan. Actually, Jorda
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee No, I think we are not. I think we need to put more pressure on them. I think we need to exercise whatever tools we have at our disposal to actually make sure that they desist in this direct or indirect support for either Islamist or terrorist organizations around the world. In
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee Yes, absolutely.
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee For me it's very clear. if somebody is about to break the law, if somebody is preparing to break the law and commit a crime, that comes under “protect” and not under “prevent”. That should be the police's responsibility. The police should get involved in protecting our communitie
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee Absolutely, there are still countries that are supporting extremist and terrorist organizations around the world.
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee My area of expertise is Islamist radicalization and Islamist terrorism. Certainly at the top of the list would be Qatar. Either directly—not so much as before, because of pressure from coalition partners, especially the U.S.A.—or through private individuals, Qatar is still fundin
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee If you look at the way the U.K. government has tackled this problem, it has made some mistakes. Post-2005 and the terrorist attacks in London, we developed a strategy that was called preventing violent extremism. The governments at the time decided they would initially centraliz
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee I want to give you a quote from the former head of MI6, Richard Dearlove, who described groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood as being, at heart, terrorist organizations. It is clear that a substantial number of British charities belong to the darker side of the global Muslim Bro
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee If we look at the way terrorist entities operate, the way they generate money, in the past a lot of their money used to come from certain countries in the Middle East, from wealthy individuals, donors, etc. Many of these countries have stopped financing, not because they've had s
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee Typically we look at the Afghanistan so-called jihad. We saw that the typical age of people going out to join that jihad was between 25 and 35. We're now finding within the western world—this is in North America, Europe, and Australasia—that the age range has come down to between
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq
Finance committee Absolutely both. We live in a globalized world. One of the most effective recruiting social media accounts, until it was closed down on Twitter, was called “Shami Witness”. Nobody knew who this person was initially, but he was arrested a few months ago. He was an individual who d
April 23rd, 2015Committee meeting
Haras Rafiq