Finance committee  One of the worst things the Canadian government can do is to make the mistakes we've made in the U.K., which have been, first of all, to look at this problem purely through the lens of criminality and legislation. By doing that, we as a government have tried to legislate our way out of these problems.

Finance committee  First of all, thank you for agreeing with me on the fact that this may well be a partial inquiry—we don't look at everything—and I really value your support in looking at this from a holistic perspective. There are a number of studies and factors we can take into consideration.

Finance committee  Mr. Chair, good morning. Good morning to you as well, my fellow panellists and everybody else there. My name is Haras Rafiq, and I'm the managing director of the Quilliam Foundation, one of the world's major think tanks looking at combatting extremism and terrorism. I want to bring to this gathering today anecdotal, academic-based research, and evidence-based research, as well as observational research and analysis as to why this study into the impact of terrorist financing is not just important but vital and crucial.