Public Accounts committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. We do have meetings and discussion with the internal audit folks. We do have discussion with them, for instance, to define what they're going to do in the future in terms of their own plans. We share our own activities that we will perform. We do have a goo

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, to echo what Mr. Hamilton just said, we are attending the audit committee, for example, and we are sitting in on and hearing these audits that are presented. One example, as mentioned in paragraph 7.46, was an audit specifically on taxpayer relief. We did look at that

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  I will always feel the same way, Mr. Chair.

Public Accounts committee  I think we complement each other as organizations. They do a certain audit based on their own risk assessment, and we try to do other audits that are not duplicating theirs but are looking at similar issues. At the end, we and they both produce some good results.

Public Accounts committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Basically, in the report, as you pointed out, in paragraph 7.83 we talk about the fact that there is no exact measurement of the additional revenues that are generated by the compliance activity. The agency used a pro-rated approach to calculate the amoun

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, we can't state what the approach is, but as I said, we did recommend that they should reassess or assess what types of other measures they could consider. I believe, yes, there is probably another way of doing this, and for the agency to explore.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, as part of this audit, we did not speak to the Treasury Board specifically or to the finance department. The agency gave us some documentation that explained the position of these two organizations specifically. We did not assess or try to understand specifically why T

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, these two organizations were not part of the scope of this audit. We would have needed to include them at the beginning of the audit to either consult them or to audit these organizations specifically.

Public Accounts committee  It was outside the scope, yes.

Public Accounts committee  I would say it's found. It's an estimate of what they anticipate specifically, Mr. Chair, to collect or identify as part of their compliance activity. It's found; I'm not sure exactly.... They will find that additional revenue. I think it's part of their own process to define s

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, the information provided—Mr. Hamilton also made a reference to that—is that they agree with the recommendation specifically and will look to find other ways or other measures to accurately measure the money that's being collected through the new dollars that are budget

Public Accounts committee  At paragraph 7.87, it states that the reports are incomplete, as you mentioned. With respect to the calculation of the agency's additional revenues, it is said that the amounts presented in its public reports do not take into consideration the amounts that have not been recovered

Public Accounts committee  I don't have any comments on that. Mr. Gallivan described the process used by the agency clearly, including the time required to complete the audits.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, basically when the agency calculates its additional revenue, it does not take into account the written-off activities of the agency. In other words, with regard to tax that will never be collected, when they do the calculation, they're not subtracting that amount from