Government Operations committee  For sure. We like a lot of the recommendations that PSAC is making about necessary changes to the legislation. Of course, we add on a few other perspectives. Obviously we're looking at it from a different angle. We're looking at it from the angle of protecting members who have fa

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  I think it is an issue, but I don't think it's as big an issue as having the right mechanisms in place to let it play out, when in fact—

Government Operations committee  Somebody suggested earlier to use the PSLREB or another body that's already set up. We were concerned about that approach because that body is already under-resourced and well behind schedule in dealing with the issues that it already has on its plate. From the perspective of res

Government Operations committee  Yes. We like that—

Government Operations committee  I think so. It was the first time I'd heard that suggestion, but I do like it because again, while obviously the reverse onus is an important piece of this as well, the person going through this process need not be at home and shunned and wearing their scarlet letter “A” around t

Government Operations committee  It's three years later, and they're working two part-time jobs.

Government Operations committee  Very quickly, for sure it's a bottleneck, and that's creating a situation in which not enough cases are making their way to the less biased body to be reviewed.

Government Operations committee  I do. Thank you very much. Members of the committee, thank you for inviting PIPSC for your review of the Public Servants Disclosure Protection Act. I feel like I've been involved in whistle-blowing legislation in one form or another since I was a baby steward and the institute's

Government Operations committee  Marie Lemay mentioned that she had set up an address of one gathering place where we could send these issues to. Those are over-arching issues, not individual issues. On individual cases, after some months of people not being paid, we went and asked for another solution. We're se

Government Operations committee  No. As I say, we just want to get our members paid. We're willing to do anything. We're willing to help out in whatever way, to give of ourselves in any way that we can help. We're really pleased that the committee is also very serious about getting us through to a resolution. Th

Government Operations committee  I just beg the committee's indulgence for one more minute, despite your not asking me a question. It's great that you're going to study it, but I think Donna and I both had the same question—to what end? What we're after is, number one, getting our members paid; and then, numbe

Government Operations committee  I'm going to refer to Donna on this, because the PSAC was in this much earlier than we were, back in 2011, as we were starting to move over, saying, “Whoa, whoa, wait a minute.” Certainly, after wave one happened, that was the point at which we realized everything they'd been tel

Government Operations committee  The same with us: fix the problems first, then go to wave two.

Government Operations committee  After the fact? I mean, they needed to plan better and to do better training, and all of these things, and I think they still need to do those things, but—