Natural Resources committee  I appreciate the points about the policy framework. Do you have those numbers in front of you in terms of where we are now and what proportion of government procurement is indigenous business? If you don't, that's fine, but maybe that would be an interesting piece.

Natural Resources committee  Yes.

Natural Resources committee  I think the committee would be interested in those numbers as well as in any projected goals you have, because reviewing the framework is important, but also looking at specific numbers is ultimately a way to test the effectiveness of that framework. In a different vein, there w

Natural Resources committee  Thank you. I want to support Mr. Whalen's suggestion. I'm not a regular member of this committee. I might try to come back and hear that testimony from Justice and Transport, because it sounds, from what we've heard, that there is a duty to consult that is invoked when the gove

Natural Resources committee  Better is always possible.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, but we do have—

Natural Resources committee  Okay. I think it's pretty clear. Thank you.

Natural Resources committee  Okay. So any time the government makes a decision to introduce policy that stops projects from going forward, in your view, Mr. Hubbard, that would trigger a duty to consult as well.

Natural Resources committee  Okay. It seems pretty obvious, then, that policies like the offshore drilling moratorium in the Arctic, like Bill C-69, like Bill C-48, like the tanker exclusion zone, would have a significant impact on indigenous communities and on their ability to provide for their own communit

Natural Resources committee  If I understand correctly, none of your departments, including the department of indigenous affairs, were involved in any consultations with respect to the imposition of the tanker exclusion zone. Is that correct?

Natural Resources committee  I would presume that you are involved or consulted though, in some sense, on any consultations the government is doing with indigenous people, because the relationship between government and indigenous people is your primary responsibility. In a broad sense, I assume you would be

Natural Resources committee  You are involved when there are consultations that have gone on. However, you weren't involved if consultations happened on the tanker exclusion zone, and my suspicion is that nothing happened, despite the duty to consult, as we've discussed. It sounds like that's the case, given

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. It was a surprise for me to hear one of the witnesses say that Bill C-69 was the product of consultation with indigenous people. I think it's fairly well known that the National Coalition of Chiefs, the Indian Resource Council, the Eagle Spirit Chiefs Counc