Public Safety committee  Minister, I think you've proven my point.

Public Safety committee  I think you've proven my point. You're going after law-abiding gun owners, Minister—

Public Safety committee  You're going after law-abiding gun owners. Go after criminals.

Public Safety committee  Thank you. Minister, you and your PS recently attacked a fundraiser that was hosted in my event, which Pam Damoff just referred to. It was called “Guns and Guinness”. It was a group of responsible individuals who got together, did a clay shootout, and then drove 20 minutes away,

Public Safety committee  Did you not state this?

Public Safety committee  Is this statement yours, Minister?

Public Safety committee  You're associating these three things with being mature, to make an autonomous decision.

Public Safety committee  So it's not irresponsible—

Public Safety committee  —to legally use a firearm, then.

Public Safety committee  I think, Minister, you would agree with me, then, that if an individual lawfully owns a firearm and lawfully uses a firearm, they have the right to do so, correct? That would be a responsible thing to do, would it not?

Public Safety committee  Absolutely.

Public Safety committee  Absolutely.

Public Safety committee  I have no problem agreeing with you on that, Minister. Only 9% of guns used in crimes were traced back to legal owners. However, Minister, you're under this instruction from the Prime Minister to basically seize all handguns from Canadians. Now, here's the thing. If only 9% of

Public Safety committee  You are when you host consultations that are by invite only.

Public Safety committee  That's not exactly public, is it?