Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you. Mr. Murray, I just want to clarify something you said. You talked about the council transitioning to a college. Have you had discussions with the government to confirm that this is the intended process, that you would transition to a college?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Okay, all right, that's very interesting, and I think that's new information for the committee that the intention is for the existing council to transition to a college. Now we have that on the record, so I thank you. Mr. Murray, you also spoke about setting the rules. The legis

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you. Ms. Panlaqui, thank you for your testimony, and thank you for the important work you're involved in. I know you presented as someone who's raising concerns about the activities, in some cases, of unscrupulous consultants. It seems to me, from listening to the testim

Citizenship and Immigration committee  If a not-for-profit is helping somebody and not charging them at all, it doesn't have to worry about registering, under this legislation.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Can I interject on that? Subsection 43(1) of the act says: The Minister must, by regulation, establish a code of professional conduct for licensees. If I heard it correctly, you were talking about the board setting up the code of conduct. The legislation says that the minist

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Perhaps I can comment. In the case example that I used before, I didn't use the phrase “a false claim” when I was questioning the minister. What I said was that if somebody who's come from a safe country, where they're not facing threats, is here in Canada on a temporary visa, an

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Maybe I'll start with a comment about the testimony we heard from the minister. There is clearly a big problem here. We've got a section in an omnibus budget bill that says a subsequently developed code of conduct will define professional misconduct, but

Citizenship and Immigration committee  But would they be considered a consultant for the purposes of this legislation if they are not receiving a fee?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Even if they're giving it for free?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  A person who gives—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  A person who gives immigration advice is still covered by this legislation even if they're not being paid a fee. If, let's say, a refugee sponsor organization is giving immigration advice informally to somebody else, would this same legislation apply to them?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I understand you're saying that they're going to develop a code of conduct and work with the members, but people who are affected, potentially, by the very real type of situation I've described—in which somebody is given bad advice and they're trying to navigate the system—will b

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Minister, I think people are concerned about the existing regulatory body, and this has been highlighted in a unanimous report by this committee. You've left the door open, in this legislation, to having the same body take over under the renamed and relatively similar framework y

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Effectively we have to trust that framework.