Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We raised that. That's in the spirit of building back better, making investments that are smart, and also resolving issues that are more systemic like, in this case, overcrowding. We deal on a case-by-case basis, but the idea is to build back better and build back smarter.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Thank you very much.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We would be pleased to share with you the funding formula.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We can verify internally whether we have the actual overall cost difference.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  The system that my colleague here has described is applicable to first nations, as well. When it comes to fire suppression activities, we have agreements for those across the country—it's a different set of activities—so that they're not water bombing an area where there's forest

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  It's a bit like an insurance company. Typically, if you had a bungalow with three rooms that burnt down or was flooded, you would get that back.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  It would be a reconstruction. I'll give you an example. My colleague mentioned the build back better approach. This is something towards which we're moving. For instance, in Kashechewan, we had a community evacuated for flooding; 454 people were evacuated. There were 36 houses.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Madam Chair, the short answer would be, for sure, there is a cost to remoteness. Many of our programs in the department have factored in remoteness in terms of the funding formulas. When we're talking about infrastructure, there's additional funding normally provided to recognize

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Is your question specifically related to indigenous communities?

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We could get you this data. If the committee is interested in this we would be pleased to put it forth in terms of return on investment. One of the things that is difficult in this return on investment in mitigation is it's very difficult to correlate it. We've been trying for a

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  That's the challenge. We could tell the committee how much we've invested in FireSmart by community, but the direct correlation to how that translates is very challenging.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Both of us will have something to say. Go ahead.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  What's interesting with the Canadian Red Cross is that where they have existing capacity and knowledge in Canada, like reception centres, they were doing that in Quebec, for instance. They do it in B.C., and that's great. They can replicate that within other jurisdictions. Where

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Thank you for the question. Just to clarify, the disaster financial assistance arrangements—

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  — is a Public Safety-led program that applies to all communities in Canada with the exception of indigenous communities. For indigenous communities, it is the emergency management assistance program, which in terms of eligibility criteria is mimicking the DFAA a bit. The differen