Public Safety committee  Yes. That's what it should be. Some women think that they can go to the HR department and explain their position and get good recommendations or be heard before any decision is taken. Many others say, no, it's not real, because the HR department is there to service the administra

Public Safety committee  Well, I'm not terribly in favour of these kinds of programs. What I think you have to have is equal opportunity. If the recruitment is okay and you have a sufficient number of women there and you're doing a good development plan for them, you don't need affirmative action. They w

Public Safety committee  Some already exist, but the system is poorly organized. For example, some people are put on paid leave for two or three months. That should be without pay. I think the sanction for repeated abuses should be dismissal rather than a transfer. Furthermore, if a man abuses his powe

Public Safety committee  One of the things that makes you wonder whether this is effective is the fact that we were also dealing with women who worked with the RCMP, but who are civil servants and they're unionized. I asked every one of the women I met, isn't your union involved? Aren't they protecting y

Public Safety committee  The different elements of the militarization of the RCMP I think are hard to define to someone from outside, because you don't know exactly what comes from there or not. What I was told that is meaningful is that they say, “You know, there's the law, there's justice, but then the

Public Safety committee  [Inaudible—Editor] the line there.

Public Safety committee  I think there should be some psychological testing to make sure that you're not really recruiting people who would be violent, who have difficulty working with women or who don't have any respect for the people they work with, whether they be men or women. The model that you giv

Public Safety committee  The answer is to abandon this model where they break people down and then try to build them back up. I think it's to evaluate the quality of people, determine where and how they should be trained, and develop a plan for their careers with deadlines and a list of courses to take a

Public Safety committee  I was saying that accommodating women in the RCMP is very important, because they have problems that are unique to them when they decide to have a family. One problem that has not been resolved yet completely, I think, is the fact that they don't replace women on maternity leave,

Public Safety committee  I think you have to prepare people to exercise roles of leadership. You have to teach them how to manage people, how to establish priorities and how to deal fairly with people who want the same promotion or want access to the same training. There isn't any indication, I think, i

Public Safety committee  No, I can continue if you want.

Public Safety committee  One thing that has caused many problems is that they have put the new members, the young members, in areas that are far away from their home and far way from anywhere they have strong social relations. They are put in areas they don't know. They are put in areas where they're com

Public Safety committee  Yes. I was just looking for the list of recommendations. You're asking me which are the most important ones. I think the most important recommendation is to recruit the right people and to have a good training program. That means reforming within the Depot division and establish

Public Safety committee  I think we need a commissioner who is responsible, but that doesn't mean you don't need a board of directors. The commissioner reformed the board this year. I think seven of the 15 members of the management committee are now women, and I also know that some members are from visi

Public Safety committee  I haven't heard anything from him other than the interview you talked about, a few minutes on television in which he said that he agreed that it was a very severe problem and that it had to be addressed right away. He said he had confidence that the present administration of the