Human Resources committee  Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members of the committee. My name is Paula Isaak, and as was mentioned, I'm the assistant deputy minister responsible for education and social programs and partnerships in the Department of Indigenous Services. I would like to thank the committee f

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We track the numbers. In 2014-15, as an example, we had about 2,800 women and about 2,800 children who accessed shelters. The challenge with developing a target is that you don't want to develop a target, in that we're not trying to achieve a number of people seeking shelter, if

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We had 37.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I'll just add that the communities can decide how to use that language and culture money, in a broad way, and it can touch on many different things. It isn't necessarily just to hire a teacher. It can be for a language and culture program that can be very broad. It's part of thei

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Some of the discriminatory practice of the earlier funding was the lack of prevention across the country, so that was fixed. The other piece was that we didn't want to unilaterally change the formula on which the funding was based without doing consultation. We're using some of

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  That's roughly accurate. Children go on and off. They transfer quite a bit over the course of a year, so those numbers change quite a bit from year to year, but it's approximately that amount.

Human Resources committee  We'll have to get back to you in writing. I don't have it with me.

Human Resources committee  Yes, thank you, there are other ways, and what I failed to mention in my earlier comments was that we also fund Indspire, which is a charitable organization that provides bursaries to indigenous students in post-secondary education. It receives funding from a number of partners—t

Human Resources committee  Yes. We can get information on Indspire.

Human Resources committee  We wouldn't know the numbers for every single other bursary that's out there, because we just don't track every single bursary that's there.

Human Resources committee  That's for post-secondary.

Human Resources committee  Again, it depends. Because the communities deliver it themselves, they determine the amount. It could be they might pay the full cost of education for that person to go through—

Human Resources committee  I don't think we have that. We don't ask communities how much they pay for each student. Some may pay for everything, including all the wraparound services, such as child care, transportation—

Human Resources committee  It's given to communities based on a formula and on the potential number of students, but we don't know if they're augmenting that. We don't know how many students ultimately they may be supporting, so that is the challenge. We don't have data to be able to make—

Human Resources committee  We don't know how much the individual student is getting. We don't know that. We have some basic statistical information about graduation rates from universities by indigenous students.