Transport committee  We look at things in the short term, the mid term, and the long term. As Johan pointed out, we have geotechnicians, and we have meteorologists looking at these issues, and we're responding. If we're being told that there are going to be climactic events going on in the area that

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  And we're very sympathetic.

Transport committee  The Amtrak train, yes.

Transport committee  I'd just like to say that we would agree with you in terms how we need to have a dialogue that allows all the constituencies to coexist well. We have a duty and an obligation to move freight. We also have a duty and an obligation to be good corporate citizens with regard to those

Transport committee  Well, for us to do it independently, it would be.

Transport committee  That's why I think our railroad—

Transport committee  —would welcome the conversation and discussion. As I said before—

Transport committee  —it would be very, very expensive. I began my comments by saying that our railroad truly appreciates the opportunity to come here to speak to this committee and to say that we are open to discussions. We will remain after the hearing to have more discussions. We will come back t

Transport committee  Well, except you're having to operate someplace. At some point, the two lines overlap and cross each other, and so of necessity you're going to have waste, so to speak, where you're not going to recoup the money you've spent. I'm not disagreeing with you in terms of the possibi

Transport committee  That's true, yes.

Transport committee  Yes, we do keep records. I don't happen to have that information. Do you guys in Seattle have that?

Transport committee  I'm not privy to that information. I don't know if our folks in Seattle are, but we are willing to listen to what has been said.

Transport committee  As I said, I have not been privy to that. We can check to see if any of those studies have been done and get back to you.

Transport committee  The issue is very complex. First of all, I think there's an assumption being made that there will be more efficiency in a track that's moved. We have not seen specific drawings and details of how that would work, so it's not entirely clear that we would have those efficiencies.