Pay Equity committee  No, I don't have information to offer on the gender breakdown of the credit union employees across the country. If it's of interest to the committee, I can ask colleagues to send that in for the end of the week, but I can't specifically comment on that.

Pay Equity committee  Thank you. Good evening. Thank you for inviting me to speak with you. I'm Catherine Ludgate. I'm a manager in the community investment team at Vancity Credit Union, based in Vancouver. I'm actually in Saskatoon at a conference of all credit unions. I'm Vancity's lead on our ado