Pay Equity committee  Just so I understand your question, do you mean in the implementation process of the legislation?

Pay Equity committee  So you don't mean in the legislation itself? Or did you mean both?

Pay Equity committee  In the implementation, I think that NAWL would stand by what was recommended in 2005, which was that you find a gifted facilitator to take your draft legislation back to stakeholder groups—and that certainly includes and must include the unions—for input. I think on the front end

Pay Equity committee  In chapter 13 of the recommendations, I think you get really specific steps on maintenance regimes. The specificity even gets down to at what stages you need to be reporting out on what you're doing, so I would direct you to chapter 13.

Pay Equity committee  I think we stand by our earlier comment that it's important to take the recommendations as a whole. In terms of a staged response, I don't think we have the expertise to comment on that.

Pay Equity committee  I would add that pay equity is a recognized human right and that at a really basic level, legislation is necessary, not just in order to comply with domestic and international obligations and commitments but because it's important to recognize that what we're talking about is the

Pay Equity committee  I guess there are a couple of things. One is that pay equity is the law. It might be challenging, it might be unpleasant, and it might be costly, but it's the law and it's human rights law, so it's not the kind of thing that we can dilly-dally on. I'll leave it at that.

Pay Equity committee  Transparency is good, but does it have teeth? What comes with transparency?

Pay Equity committee  I think what we're looking at here is legislation for all federally regulated employers who may have employees working in the provinces, but at the federal level you can't legislate for the provinces. I hope that answers your question.

Pay Equity committee  I think that no matter what you do, once you have good legislation on paper you're going to have go back to your key stakeholders. I think that is critical. I guess the other thing I would say is that while there are a number of witnesses who have pointed to positive lessons tha

Pay Equity committee  As far as I understand, you were asking about implementation and advice around implementation, and in particular how to deal with some of the complexities that arose out of the Bilson report. We would say that the Bilson report was as explicit as it was because of how complex pa

Pay Equity committee  Okay, sorry to the translators. Justice Evans also stated in paragraph 167 of his reasons: There is now much to learn from the experience of provincial pay equity regimes, which seem not to have been plagued with the same problems of protracted litigation as the federal scheme

Pay Equity committee  Thank you, Madam Chair, honourable members. My colleague Anne Levesque and I are pleased to be appearing before you on behalf of the National Association of Women and the Law. NAWL is a national non-profit feminist organization that has worked since 1974 to promote the substant