Fisheries committee  No. It's just like going to the United States and driving drunk down there: you are or may be committing an offence down there—or you may not be—but that fact does not mean you can be prosecuted in Canada for doing it down there, unless you are subject to the extraterritorial pro

Fisheries committee  I don't think that simply posting your experience in another jurisdiction is promoting it.

Fisheries committee  No, because the legislation specifically grandfathers those animals that are in captivity at present. So it would allow Marineland, for example, to get rid of its existing stock, if it wishes, because those animals and its possession of those animals are not subject to this legis

Fisheries committee  It would be whatever they have in their possession, yes.

Fisheries committee  As far as I can read this bill, that's right. Dr. Visser.

Fisheries committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, and thank you for allowing me to be here. If anybody has any questions that I can answer outside of the committee meeting, I'll be glad to do so.

Fisheries committee  Well, I'm sure there's a scientific explanation that you can hear from Dr. Visser and others. It's in the material that was before the Senate. I'll refer to the question I was asked earlier by Mr. Johns, who referenced our mutual friend Barney Williams, who's an elder in Nuu-cha

Fisheries committee  Don't worry. I respond to anything.

Fisheries committee  Thank you very much.

Fisheries committee  I was here earlier and commented upon that.

Fisheries committee  I realize that you were in the House and listening to the statements. Let me just repeat what I said earlier. Bill C-68 does that, but it does it by amending the Fisheries Act. It's a Fisheries Act offence and therefore not a Criminal Code offence; it doesn't place this activity

Fisheries committee  Yes. If you look at the provisions of the bill, you will see that there are exemptions for the taking of cetaceans into captivity for purposes of addressing issues of distress that the animal may be undergoing or to provide assistance to the animal, to use the wording of Bill C-6

Fisheries committee  Since the Senate bill addresses primarily a Criminal Code cruelty to animals approach, it is really a question of jurisdiction over the animal at the time of the taking into captivity and the things that happen while in captivity. The question of whether or not, scientifically,

Fisheries committee  There's no question that if it comes back to the Senate with an amendment we have to consider, the delay tactics that have been used in the past to delay this bill from becoming passed through the Senate for three years will be re-employed. The committee structure that's in place

Fisheries committee  I commend you to the third reading speech that I gave in which I talked about that, because everything comes from one's perspective of creation and one's teachings around creation. In the Senate, I spoke about the fact that in our teachings—and this is true for several if not all