Public Accounts committee  We are working with the Treasury Board right now. The first step is to see if there is a need for this and how donations, organizations and different departments can be matched. There seems to be a desire and need in this regard. I'm convinced that if this is positive, the Treasu

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I want to thank you and the members of the committee for this opportunity to discuss the Auditor General's report on the disposal of surplus goods and equipment in the Government of Canada. As you've said, I have with me at the table Nicholas Trud

Public Accounts committee  No. It was actually a default. The way it was set up, the go-live was in February. The second wave was happening unless there was a catastrophic failure, or I think that's what it was called.

Public Accounts committee  You have to know, too, that there were blackout periods before the dates. When we talk about February 24, the data transfer actually started before that, and the same thing in April. When I walked in, the blackout period was already there, so it wouldn't have been asked.

Public Accounts committee  To reassure you, I will tell you that we have already put into practice the lessons learned from this experience. I think that, as public servants, and particularly as deputy ministers, if we think we need certain investments to carry out a project, our role is to defend that nee

Public Accounts committee  Apart from the nuances, I would say that we have no choice, and we won't do the project. We can't put the organization at risk. If we aren't able to do the project, we won't do it.

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand. Yes, if we needed more money, we would go to the minister, who would go to Treasury Board.

Public Accounts committee  Again, the way we set up big projects is to make sure that there is independent advice directly to the DM. In my case, any big project I'll set up, I'll have a direct advice, not all the governance going through the same process, and make sure that, if it's enterprise-wide at the

Public Accounts committee  That's—

Public Accounts committee  I agree with the recommendation, and we're acting on the recommendation. I told you also about the culture. I do agree with the clerk. We do have a world-class public service. This doesn't mean that we have a broken public service.

Public Accounts committee  I'd also tell you about some of the things that we're doing at PSPC. I think we do need to really work hard to create a culture where it's safe to bring issues, and we have to have different mechanisms for that. We have to be able to create the environment, but we have to have th

Public Accounts committee  Just on that one, we testified here before. I said that before. There was one briefing made on February 18 to the minister, from what we gather in terms of the documents. You could see the documents. It was ready to go. She was not asked for.... I think we can make that document

Public Accounts committee  I would say it's 99.9% no, the report was not in the transition binder—my transition binder—because we didn't see it, but I'd have to go back to be absolutely sure.

Public Accounts committee  We need to get the dates straight here, and whether you're talking about my transition binder or the minister's transition binder. I came in April. The Gartner report was requested by the Treasury Board. PSPC did their own report through the gating processes, and that's the S.i

Public Accounts committee  That's a very good question. Again, when you assess the different executives, we do have a system to manage performance. Maybe I can let my colleague speak to the system. We have the tools that we have. It's going to sound like I'm going back to the same thing, but part of our a