Environment committee  Yes, of course.

Environment committee  We are working with, or talking with, environmental groups, but the discussion is on other acts where we are much more impacted, such as the Environmental Assessment Act. On something like CEPA, which is a many-headed beast and is more of an enabling act, there are conversations

Fisheries committee  No, I'll make the remarks. Mark is here in case you have technical questions.

Fisheries committee  Thank you for this opportunity to present the Mining Association of Canada's views on the Fisheries Act. The Mining Association of Canada, MAC, is the national organization representing the Canadian mining industry, comprising companies engaged in mineral exploration, mining, sm

Fisheries committee  That was the practice of our members' mining projects. In practice, they were asked to account for more water bodies.

Fisheries committee  Oh, dear. I have a very mobile face. One of the things that puzzled me about the Waterkeeper testimony was ascribing the section 36 regulations to the 2012 changes. They have been in existence for quite some time. The predecessor to the metal mining effluent regulations dates b

Fisheries committee  I don't know. We would not be familiar with their internal operations.

Fisheries committee  It would be capacity and guidance. You can write the most beautiful legislation in the world, and if the department does not have the capacity to deliver it, it's not going to be delivered.

Environment committee  It's 26 years.

Environment committee  It wasn't so much the introduction or non-introduction of the NEB and the CNSC, because they don't affect any of our members' projects other than CNSC for uranium. It was more the introduction of the agency. Prior to 2010 you had the diffuse self-assessment by 40, I think it was,

Environment committee  I mean CEAA 2012. So that was a shock. But then some of the other provisions weren't evident and what was envisaged at the time of the passing of 2012 wasn't what was implemented. Some of the problems didn't really become evident until 2015 or 2016.

Fisheries committee  The differences between the actual interpretation of the act and the changes, at least for our sector in inland waters, were very subtle. Some of the biologists that work in our sector would argue that the current act is scientifically more sound because it focuses on the product

Fisheries committee  Yes. However, it fell down in the compliance, promotion, and implementation. A lot of people were left with an inaccurate understanding of what the act is.

Fisheries committee  I don't think we can, partly because, especially when you go north you're talking water bodies, so—

Fisheries committee  With one thousand in one little square kilometre, it's very difficult to make that number.