Public Safety committee  I think that would have to be defined once Bill C-22 is enacted.

Public Safety committee  Do you want to cover that one, Charles?

Public Safety committee  When I talk of expert review and talk about how SIRC carries out its function—and I certainly get the point on the different levels of funding—we have our funding base to solely look at CSIS and to dive deep in CSIS, whereas the committee of parliamentarians and the staff or the

Public Safety committee  The other thing is you have to remember that, of course, SIRC has its three functions, and its quasi-judicial function, where we handle complaints against CSIS. Think of us as having three bubbles of activities and think of the committee of parliamentarians not necessarily fulfil

Public Safety committee  I see the day when there is an activity there that the committee of parliamentarians wants to look at. I see the scenario where they cannot. We will be informed of that, and we will decide as an independent agency if we want to look at it or not. We may have looked at it last y

Public Safety committee  I see the day when our relationship with the committee of parliamentarians is such that we know what they're doing and they know what we're doing. I want to be clear on the directing or the compelling. Nobody can direct SIRC on what to do as it relates to our review cycle.

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

Public Safety committee  I wouldn't necessarily comment on why the degrees of access are different. If you look at the proposed bill and you look at our enabling legislation, you see that they're absolutely different. Expert review requires powers to carry out review. It requires funding to carry out rev

Public Safety committee  Absolutely.

Public Safety committee  That could be a fair summary. As I mentioned earlier, we have three mandates: the certification—

Public Safety committee  That's a great question.

Public Safety committee  My answer would be that it may be premature to talk about a memorandum of understanding as to how the committee of parliamentarians and SIRC—

Public Safety committee  Okay. What's in that MOU?

Public Safety committee  Certainly. I can't comment on the government's position, as it relates to access for the committee of parliamentarians, but I'd like to go back again to the accountability framework in which there are multiple players that give us and give Canadians a very good view of CSIS's act

Public Safety committee  I didn't say that, and I would phrase it that we want to increase Canadians' confidence in the national security apparatus. As I mentioned earlier, I think that the committee of parliamentarians working with the review bodies would help to increase that level of confidence.