Public Safety committee  Again, it's like one of the other questions I had earlier. It's hard to create a definition that fits with every possible scenario. I think it is in the practice of that relationship that the minister has talked about—and that many members have—that relationship over time between

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Good afternoon. I think you've already introduced my colleagues, Jill Wherrett, John Ossowski, Martin Bolduc, and Gilles Michaud. As members know, Public Safety Canada is one of many working to implement the beyond the border action plan. At t

Public Accounts committee  We have no hesitation in committing to sharing the results with the committee.

Public Accounts committee  Sure. I'd be happy to. I'm not going to try to put words in the Auditor General's mouth, but I think it is worth underlining a couple of things. One, we have work to do on performance indicators. The report has also indicated that the vast majority of initiatives that are part o

Public Accounts committee  Again, I don't want to put words in the Auditor General's mouth. Auditor General, correct me if I get this wrong. There was in fact costing on an initiative-by-initiative basis, project by project, within each department. I don't think there's a dispute about that. I think the

Public Accounts committee  Okay.

Public Accounts committee  I can helpfully point you in the direction of the Treasury Board Secretariat, which I think is coming on Tuesday.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, kerplunk. Seriously, this is one of the challenges in managing these kinds of approaches. You asked if there were any other examples, but we can't actually think of one that's as big as this. This really was the first time trying to do something that crossed so many departm

Public Accounts committee  I'll start on the general response. I believe, and I just confirmed this with Jill, that the U.S. doesn't have a similar horizontal reporting tool or device. You'd have to evaluate it silo by silo, and I don't think anyone has, at least that I'm aware of, but I'll let my collea

Public Accounts committee  I think your point about agreements with the EU is on interactive passenger PNR, which is a different initiative. Our colleagues can lay out the status of those negotiations.

Public Accounts committee  I'll take a stab at it. I think you're asking a pretty fundamental question. We work in a Westminster model, where ministers are accountable to the House, appropriately, and accounting officers to parliamentarians, for the operation of their individual departments. Cutting across

Public Accounts committee  I can take a stab at that. If you're really asking why these initiatives were selected, it was a product of a negotiation between Canada and the United States at the time, led by the highest levels of both governments. Frankly, listening to stakeholders, a lot of consultation d

Public Accounts committee  I think a good example is what John has given you, a single window. It's a good idea in concept, something they were looking for. The implementation of it has been done. The take-up hasn't. Why? I think our friends at CBSA have described it. I think in other instances, the syst

Public Accounts committee  Generally, it was the time to implementation. These are well-costed and go through the process of Treasury Board, etc. You can ask colleagues—

Public Accounts committee  It's pretty close. The delay in the implementation of things that are outside the scope of a particular department, or even the initiative across the board because of questions like... My colleague was talking about pre-clearance. There's been a delay there in part because of com