Public Safety committee  There are two key ones that I would recommend. First of all, as was stated before, to appeal the decision of the minister you have to establish that the minister was unreasonable. It shouldn't be unreasonableness. What it should be is he or she was correct. It's too important in

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  That's one of the problems with Bill C-22. The stated purpose of the relationship between the existing bodies like SIRC and the parliamentary committee is to avoid duplication. That's the duty to co-operate in order to avoid duplication. I think you should be able to work togethe

Public Safety committee  Just a couple of comments. The Arar inquiry, the Air India inquiry and so on, are very good examples of a situation that shows the inadequacy of the present review system. For example, in Mr. Arar's case, SIRC couldn't have reviewed that situation. The RCMP complaints commission

Public Safety committee  Certainly the ultimate purpose in having an independent committee is that it will have legitimacy with the public. The more independent the committee is from the government, the more legitimate it will be with the public. What that means is that what we have to be careful about—a

Public Safety committee  Let me respond in two ways. First of all, in respect of best practices relating to the sharing of information with foreign agencies such as the CIA and the FBI, I'd ask you to look at the Arar report. In 2006, Mr. Justice O'Connor made a number of recommendations in respect of th

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

Public Safety committee  That would be a question of practicality. I think what should happen is that they meet at least once or twice a year. There should be an interrelationship there, because you're going to be involved in the policy-making in respect of CSIS and these other bodies, and the on-ground

Public Safety committee  That's right. You're going to have a wealth of experience there, and you should draw on it.

Public Safety committee  Probably the best example would be the United Kingdom.

Public Safety committee  What I would recommend is that you have the parliamentary oversight, which would be a committee of parliamentarians that would deal with systemic issues, as well as the policies that CSIS and the RCMP should have, such as what agreements they should have with foreign countries, t

Public Safety committee  No, we would have a new body.

Public Safety committee  Yes, this independent body would have all the powers—

Public Safety committee  —SIRC, the CSC commissioner, the RCMP, and so on. It would be one body dealing with all the agencies, so they can effectively review what's going on, because all of these investigations are joint investigations. When you have CSIS, RCMP, CBSA, and Immigration Canada involved, you

Public Safety committee  No.