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Public Safety committee  In 15 seconds: we must rely on our partners because we don't have the capabilities ourselves. That's why we're in NATO. That's why we're part of the Five Eyes. There may be a downside to it in certain ways, but the upside is so massive that it counterbalances any potential ill ef

October 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. David Bercuson

Public Safety committee  I'd like to jump in on this one. We have to look at threats as, in a sense, an arc of issues that impact on the safety of society. You can start on one end with pandemics and on the other end with war. Somewhere in between you'll get criminal activity, narco-terrorism, and cybers

October 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. David Bercuson

Public Safety committee  I don't think civilian oversight works, because in this situation we're not dealing with criminal matters, we're dealing with security issues. Much of the evidence that is going to be used by the security agencies is going to be secret evidence.

October 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. David Bercuson

Public Safety committee  I see some overall general value. I don't see any specific value whatsoever, because if I were a member of one of these committees, there's just too much stuff that I could never get to see, so then what's the point?

October 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. David Bercuson

Public Safety committee  Yes, and you must keep some of this information secret. You can't pretend that the criminal procedures we use are applicable to procedures that we would use in cases of apprehended terrorism or actually terrorism. We can't.

October 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. David Bercuson

Public Safety committee  Thank you very much. I will read from my prepared statement. Canada's history of attempting to balance human rights against internal security stretches back to the late 19th century when Prime Minister John A. Macdonald hired a number of undercover detectives to keep watch on

October 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Dr. David Bercuson